Kaelen Tucker: The Relay Felt Around The World

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I think I alluded to this, but if I didn't tell you, I apologize.

I was away from the end of February until around the 11th or so in Arkansas and I just got back earlier this week.

So we're getting back on our grind I got some incredible people lined up to you that I booked while I was away just to kind of give you guys a little taste of that.

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But I was in Arkansas.

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But one of the main reasons I went is because I was asked to speak at a cold case symposium to a bunch of law enforcement.

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As you guys do know with the cold case symposium case, people is confused.

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I believe, but extinguish myself and my co host, Ladonna Humphrey, we do nothing on that podcast but tackle cold cases.

That's why I was called as to speed because I do have a passion for cold case in trying to get them solved if we can.

So that's where I've been.

Now let's get into today's case.

I have to speak on this case because of what it is is all over the news.

You guys have already heard the case.

You probably heard 40 other people talk about this case.

But I gotta talk about it.

And it is the Kayleen Tucker saga.

If you don't know who Kayleen Tucker is, Kayleen Tucker was a high school track runner that was hit in the head with a baton by Alayla Efrit.

We gotta talk about this because the fact that I used to be a track runner, I ran track in high school.

And there's been some more developments that's come because of this.

So I'm going to give you my opinion.

I'm going to tell you why I'm ashamed as being a black person because now what a Layla effort is claiming, and they're actually claiming racism on this situation.

So let me just read you an article that goes that.

Let me give you my opinion, uh, the most complete one now that I have found because things are changing because, I mean, there's charges and all kinds of stuff you hear about is going to be from ABC News.

It was written by Meredith Deliso.

So we're going to read her article then I'm going to give you my two cents on this and what I think should happen.

So she titled her article, high School runner who hit opponent in head with Baton faces assault and battery charges.

A high school track athlete faces misdemeanor charge of assault and battery after a non viral video showed her hitting a competitor's head with her baton during a relay event.

Alela Effort, a senior at I.C.

norcom High School in Portsmouth, was running the second leg of the 4 by 200 meter relay when her baton struck Kalyn Tucker, a junior from Brookville High School, in the head.

It happened March 4th during the Virginia State High School League Championships at Liberty University in Lynchburg.

Bethany Harrison, the Commonwealth's Attorney for the city of Lynchburg, confirmed ABC News on Wednesday that a misdemeanor charge of assault and battery was issued against effort in the matter.

Additional details on the case were not immediately available.

The video of the incident showed Tucker staggering and reaching for her head after being hit before going off the track.

She dropped her baton and was attended to by medical personnel shortly after the incident.

She would later be diagnosed with a concussion, she told ABC affiliate WVEC in Hampton, Virginia.

Now I want to add my two cents here because as much as I'm sure Meredith Deliso is a great reporter, there's something she forgot there that I think drives kind of home this point.

Now, Meredith says that she would later find out, being young Tucker here would later find out that she was diagnosed with a concussion.

According to her mother, not only was she diagnosed with a concussion, but also a possible skull fracture.

I want that to seep in because she was hit in the head by baton and I'm going to tell you about these things as I've ran with them before.

Why I say and will say that this was a deliberate hit.

But I want to add in there.

Not only was she diagnosed with a concussion, but she also was diagnosed with a possible skull fractured.

Now she goes on to say I was so in disbelief, tucker told wvec.

I didn't know what happened.

Everett contended that baton strike was an accident.

In an interview that aired Tuesday on Good Morning America, she said, I would never do that on purpose, ever said that's not in my character.

The 18 year old said that during the race her arm became stuck and her baton inadvertently struck Tucker as they neared the corner of the track.

Her arm was literally hitting the baton until she got a little ahead and my arm got stuck like this, she said while holding a baton to emphasize the movement.

The Everett say they believe their video shows that Tucker's proximity to their daughter led to an additional collision.

According to the family, Tucker was running too close to Everett when she tried to cut ahead, which caused Everett to lose her balance and the baton to make contact with Tucker.

Following the incident, the athletic director at I.C.

norcom High School and Everett's father apologized to the Tucker family and a phone call, according to Tucker's parents.

The Virginia High School League told ABC News on Monday that it is reviewing the incident.

The VHSL membership has always made it a priority to provide student athletes with a safe environment for competition, the league said in a statement.

The Portsmouth NAACP said it is also reviewing the incident, as well as racial slurs and death threats toward the Everett family.

We are committed collectively to ensuring that the criminal justice system, which we feel is not warranted in this situation is executed fairly and based on due process, the organization said in the statement on Wednesday.

While calling forever to be void of any criminal proceedings, from all accounts, she is an exceptional young leader and scholar whose athletic talent has been well documented and recognized across our state.

The Portsmouth NAACP said she has carried herself with integrity both on and off the field.

And any narrative that adjudicates her guilty of any criminal activity is a violation of her due respect process.

Right.

Now, let's go through this and tell you my two cents.

I'm going to tell you that I am not pleased and I certainly do disagree with the NAACP in this statement.

And I'm going to tell you why that is in a little bit and what they are attempting to do, which you should already pull that out when they start talking about the justice system and due process.

But first, let's go back through some of this and why I call BS and say that this girl did this on purpose.

Now, this is also being compared to the January 6, 1994 incident involving Nancy Kerrigan when she was hit in the knee by Tanya Harding.

That's how much they're going back to.

This is saying that this is like that.

So let me tell you what I believe.

So, first of all, this child was not hit once.

She was hit twice.

Now, I want to remind you that a Layla effort is saying this is a total accident, but she hit this girl in the back of the head twice.

She's also made the statement that she was losing her balance and that the baton got stuck behind Kayleen Tucker's back.

So as she was bringing the baton up to bring it back around to her side, she smacked her in the head.

But how does, how do you do that twice, though?

But she's admitted that she hit her twice.

Here's where my expertise comes in.

Just to let you guys know, yes, I did run track and field when I was in high school.

Track and field was one of the three sports that I played because I used one sport to cross train for the other sport, being that they were in opposite seasons.

So I ran cross country, I played basketball, and I ran track and field.

Well, I just so happen to be a sprinter, which is exactly what these two girls are.

I actually ran these same relays they're running.

I ran the 1x4, the 2x4, and the 4x4 and also won the one by 100.

I was a sprinter.

That's what these girls do.

Now, if you guys have ever watched video of a track beat, you watch the Olympics, you watch, you know, college going up to Olympics, then you know that each runner has their individual lanes and those lanes are not so far apart.

And one interview I heard, I guess he was the director of track and field.

Or whatever he was, was trying to say that Kayleen Tucker was at fault because you have to be a full stride ahead before you attempt to cut in to someone's lane.

But she wasn't trying to cut into somebody's lane at this point.

And if you're watching the race, from what I'm seeing it, that's exactly what happened.

She was almost a full stride ahead of Everett before she was hit.

And rumors that went around that, okay, the girl in front was just going to take the race.

So basically, Tucker and Everett was fighting for second and third place.

It looks like Tucker was going to take second place before she was struck twice in the head.

So it's also come out that they believe that Everett wanted to be in second place.

She was gonna do it at all costs.

Smacked her twice in the back of the head and figured that she could tell this way off story about how the baton got stuck behind her opponent's back and everybody would just leave her be.

A little bit more that I found out about Kayleen Tucker is she had tried to run track and field before.

Her mom said on Live Interview that she quit because she said there was too much running involved.

Eventually she goes back to it and she ends up at this championship race because it turns out that Kayleen Tucker is a heck of a runner and she can make a career out of this.

She's been kicking people's behind out there and it looks like a Layla Everett was going to be next because she was going to be reduced from second place to third place.

So let me just kind of tell you my two cents and why I think that a Layla Everett did this on purpose.

I will post a video because there's video all over the place at YouTube.

If you have not seen it and if you watch the video now, they're trying to say that there's different angles and all of that kind of stuff, even no matter what angle you look at at you should come to this same conclusion.

And then I'm going to tell you what they're trying to do and why I'm disappointed with naacp.

And this is exactly the reason why when some black people say that they have racism issues, this is how come it's hard for us to get those press, because sometimes our own people makes that hard.

But again, they're running the 4 by 200 relay.

So if you aren't familiar with the relays, 4 by 200, each person runs 50 meters, which means there's a baton handoff.

The baton people, first of all, is very light I want to repeat that because this girl went to the hospital, was told she had a concussion and a possible skull fracture if you've never held one.

A baton that you use to exchange with a partner when you are running a track relay is very light.

They are so light that when you run a track meet, any windy state, and is windy that day, there is usually additional practice for you to handle the wind.

Now, if you go to any track meet, you will already see that that practice does happen, no matter where, what the conditions is.

The two runners, you know, first and second, third and fourth, they may run up, they may try, you know, they practice their stride, they practice them coming off the blocks and they're reached behind and so on and so forth, so they can make sure they get that baton squarely in hand.

Understand that there is so many meters that when you hand that baton off, that baton has to be handed off before you hit whatever that predetermined meter is.

If you don't hand that baton off and you start running behind your opponent, you are disqualified.

So they are light, meant for transition, can be dropped very easily.

So this is the first reason I call BS that it was done on an accident.

Also, here's the second reason.

They were rounding the corner.

Now, if you watch the video where Everett is saying, oh, it got stuck behind her back, let me kind of explain to you how that would have to happen.

First of all, when you are a track runner, you are running with everything pretty much perpendicular to each other.

Your right arm is right with your right leg and so on and so forth.

Your arms are in front of you and your arms is pumping right.

So you have no time to be stretching things out because that takes away from your speed as it is.

When you are rounding a corner with that baton, you kind of get a little bit tighter because now you're trying to round that corner as fast as possible, as loose as possible, without losing control of yourself.

So you don't have time to be out stretching your arms.

You're trying to pass this person, so you're picking up speed around that corner.

Again, your arms should be pumping directly in front of you as you're going and you're rounding that corner.

It's BS people, because she's saying that her.

She lost her balance and she went to stumble.

If you're running at that high rate of speed and you go to stumble, you're not going to stumble inward to the right, you're not going to stumble inward to the left, you're going to actually stumble and Trip in front of you because of the speed.

And when you're running and you're trying to go in a forward direction, if you trip on a rock or something else, you're going to fall forward, not back, not left, not right.

You're going to fall forward.

According to Alela Efrick, she was getting bumped.

She said that she was already getting bumped by Kayleen Tucker.

Now, Kayleen Tucker says that she had been getting hit by effort the whole entire meet, that she was already running too close at that point.

So for the whole meet, according to Kayleen Tucker, she was getting hit.

Now, according to Layla effort, she says that she was getting tapped the whole time around the corner too, that eventually she went to.

She went to lose her balance and fell inside and had her arm in.

The baton was behind Kayleen Tucker's back.

And as she went to to pull the baton up to bring it back over to her side and regain her balance, she hit Kayleen Tucker in the head two times.

I want all to go watch the video.

I want you to see the stills that's there.

That is totally untrue.

Layla effort, from watching this video at different angles several different times, never lost her balance.

Matter of fact, if you watch the video, there is proof of that because she is still running in a straight up and down line.

As you see the baton come in contact with Kayleen Tucker's head, if you also look very close, it looks like that Kayleen Tucker had already figured out that if she could round the corner, she was going to be that stride ahead that she needed to be, and then she was going to go ahead and take over.

Leila effort.

That's why she got hit in the head.

When you're running track, you're looking ahead between your distance and the distance of the person that's in front of you to see if you can cross that lane.

If you then look when she is running again, Layla effort, no loss of balance, straight up and down.

The moment that she clubs her in the back of the head, Kaylie Tucker goes down, she goes off to the side of track and she falls.

This is an accident, right?

By this time, I believe that Layla effort already knew she lost the race.

At this point, she could do no better than second place.

Now that Kayleen Tucker's taken out the picture.

Now, for me, I'm more concerned about my fellow athlete.

And if I would have done something like that on accident, I would have felt very bad when I saw them stumble.

And even if I didn't realize I did it to Me, at that point in time, even if I did get second place or first place, whatever place I'm gonna get in that race, I will forever feel like he was tainted because of the fact that one of my fellow athletes went down due to something that I possibly could have done.

So my first reaction is, I'm going to stop, put myself off the track, too.

That means I actually forfeit that race at that point because now I'm just going to come in dead last or it's going to go down as a dnf.

Did not finish, because I'm going to go check on my fellow athlete and say, are you okay?

What happened?

You know, anything I could do to help you.

None of that came from Layla Everett.

She kept running her race.

Now because of that hit, her school was disqualified.

So even if she did come in second place, it don't matter no more because you smack somebody in the back of the head.

So whoever the girl was that was closest to her in the back, that came in third position actually got second.

The girl in front was already gone.

Okay?

We already knew she was winning the race.

She didn't even know anything that was going on behind her.

She was way out there.

He was folk.

She was focused on finishing, and that's what she did.

So the girl in first place didn't know nothing except for she saw the finish line and that was it.

But I see NORCOM got disqualified because of that hit.

Now they have Lila Everett going around doing what I call the Apologize Tour with very fake tears.

And if people want to come after me, so so be it.

She's 18 years of age.

She is of sound mind and body.

She knows exactly what she did.

Her parents know what she did.

The videotape knows what she did.

So I'm not gonna pull no punches on her.

She's going around with this tour now saying that she's sorry and she's crying and that nobody's thinking about her.

And what about the.

The nightmares that she's having?

Then you got the NAACP coming out talking about some, well, this girl don't need, shouldn't be charged with a misdemeanor, and it's gonna ruin her way of life.

And she has all these scholarships signed up for college and she's gonna miss out.

Then Layla Everest thought about all of that before 9 second video came out that showed that she hit this girl in the back of the head intentionally.

Now she says she did not.

She said she would never do anything like that.

She's still telling the story that the Baton got stuck behind her back, and that's how she got hit in the head.

Got people saying that they know 100% that she would never do that to nobody.

How do we know that people knew 100% that Tanya Harding didn't hit Nancy Kerrigan in the knee?

Then it comes out later on that that's exactly what happened because Tanya wanted that spot.

So anybody that put their life on the line and said, oh, I know Tanya didn't do it, where you at right now?

She's still fighting that battle 30 plus years later.

I just seen a new documentary with her come out last year.

That's what's going to be like fully effort.

She's never gonna live this down.

Now, I will say this I do not agree with, because it did say that effort, who is black, says she has endured a racial backlash since the clip went viral and that people are judging her off of one angle from the video.

Let me kind of attack that as a black person, because I know exactly what they're getting at.

First of all, my disclaimer.

I don't agree that anybody, no matter what they've done, should be racially harassed or harassed at any level.

But let me tell you where that comes from.

If a black people get mad at me, I'm sorry, but if y'all examine yourself, you know what I'm about to say is true.

What was the racial backlash that she got?

I'll bet my life on it, that there wasn't no white person out there calling her any racial names.

No, it was probably black people using the words that we shouldn't use anyway, starting with N when it comes to each other.

They probably said, oh, I know this end didn't.

Or you a ghetto in.

These are probably things.

They said racial slurs was made.

Now, if this was a normal day, I'm just gonna be honest with you.

If this was a normal day, let's say that none of this Baton stuff happened in the head.

And let's just say that Lila Alfred beat Kayleen Tucker that day.

And the minute that they do, oh, you my end.

What up, ambo?

You was the end on that track.

Now, nobody has a problem with that version of it, right?

All of it's wrong.

We shouldn't be using that word in any capacity, especially being black toward each other.

It shouldn't be used in any capacity from anybody else.

But I'm showing you what the differences would be.

Now we get the NAACP involved, and I'm ashamed of the naacp.

If you guys know what those five Letters be it means the national association for the Advancement of Colored People, NAACP comes to the aid of when there really is racism happening and when there really is trials that we have to go through, and when there really is an African American or somebody else of another color being treated wrong or indecent is for our advancement to advance in this world as a black person.

Where's the advancement here?

Because now the NYCP is coming out saying, oh my gosh, this is racial.

Let me read yours first.

We want to make it abundantly clear that we denounce any type of racial slur or threat in any form towards anyone involved in the situation, the organization said in the statement.

The Portsmouth NAACP added that it believes involvement by the criminal justice system in this matter is not warranted in this situation.

Man, that is such a double ass sword and it ticked me off.

Let me tell you why that is.

Let me reread that to you again.

That it believes involvement by the criminal justice system in this matter is not warranted in this situation.

Because Kayleen Tucker's parents went and said that they think charges should be pressed on Lala Effort for maliciously and purposely attacking their daughter.

And apparently the authorities agreed.

But now they're saying, oh no, we at the NAACP don't think that this is right.

We don't think at this time there should be any criminal charges.

Reverse the roles.

Let's say it's Kayleen Tucker and it's Becky Smith.

And Becky Smith just happened to be white.

And Becky Smith did the exact same thing that Layla Effort did.

Came up and smacked Kayleen Tucker in the back of the head two times with the baton.

Man, no matter how many times Becky said that this was an accident, no matter how many times Becky tried to tell this same story that Laila Effort is trying to tell, no matter if she said she was sorry from here to the Grand Canyon, the first thing NAACP and some black people would have been yelling is it was on purpose press a charge.

If this was Becky Smith who was white and it was going around that a Chargers press the NAACP and all these other black people that's backing up Layla effort would be like, yep, that's what needs to happen.

We seen the video.

She clubbed her in the head two times.

There would be nobody that is on Layla effort side.

And believe me, there is people because they've held rallies talking about that Layla effort is the victim and the NAACP man, they would lead the charge.

But because both people are black, that's supposed to mean something.

It's almost like they expect Kayleen Tucker's parents to come out and say, you know what?

Because this happened between two black girls, we just gonna let that be.

We're not gonna go ahead and press any charges because we don't want to do any more harm towards our, you know, black people.

Skip all that.

And I.

I hate to say it, but that's exactly how it is in with some black people.

Some white people, I'm sure, too.

But it's more with us because we sometimes think that we should get some type of car that passes because we are the same skin tone.

No, if you did something wrong, you gotta pay for it.

Now Layla Everett's crying about her scholarship she may not get, and she can't go to college.

What if Kayleen Tucker is damaged for life?

What if she comes up with some type of neurological issue because she got hit in the head twice with a metal baton?

Remember, I told you these things are light.

They're light metal.

To do that kind of damage to somebody, you have to be wielding that thing like a hammer.

And if you look at the angles that I have seen, when she hits in the back of the head, that's exactly what Layla effort did.

She wound up way in the back and brought that mug forward and coming back to the head.

So what about Kayleen?

What about her life?

What if she can't run track anymore because she suffered some debilitating headaches and migraines?

I live with a person in my house that suffers from these migraines.

I know what it's like when my wife comes down with one and she's put on her back for three days because her head hurts that bad.

But nobody's saying that.

There was a rally, like I said, that was held for a lot of effort, and they're cheering.

We stand with we.

And I hope I'm saying her name right.

I don't know if it's Lila.

Layla.

But they're saying, we.

We stand with Layla.

We stand.

We stand with her.

She's the victim.

She didn't do this.

She would never do this.

She claims that she's tried to say she was sorry to Kayleen Tucker, but it's impossible because she's been blocked.

I'll probably block you, too.

It's supposed to be an accident, but she never once came over and checked on her.

She never once stopped and said, are you okay?

She never once reached out to the parents or.

No one, not even her parents came running up to Kayleen Tucker's parents and say, man, we're sorry.

Anything we can do?

Here's my phone number.

You know, let me know what happened.

None of that.

The girl didn't even say she was sorry until this 9 second clip went viral and every news organization in the world picked it up.

Now we got to do damage control.

Damage is already done, people.

I am disappointed in Layla effort as an athlete and I am saying her name wrong.

I think it's a Layla effort as an athlete because now in this day and age, we have this mentality where we feel like that if we are not better than someone else, we have to cheat to win.

This is a blatant attempt to take out her opponent because she wanted to win.

Even if it was second place in this race.

Instead of making yourself better or training harder or asking for help from your coaches, you decide to just take somebody out.

I can't condone that as a human and definitely not as an athlete.

I'm disappointed in NAACP because they're using resources that some black person, Asian person or whoever they're going to help could be using to back up a girl who by all costs, on the video you can see that she intentionally smacked this girl in the back of the head.

Now you're trying to use the justice system for the NAACP's favor.

I would say this loud and proud.

If people get upset, I'm sorry, but it's the truth.

The justice system has never been in the corner of anyone who's black in the first place.

We've preached this from the beginning of time.

We've also done documentaries and there's books that's been written about how the American justice system is always skewed to pretty much screw the black citizen.

However, the NAACP is calling on the same justice system when there is a crime that has truly been committed to take back the charge of the misdemeanor and state that it's not warranted in this situation.

You have to listen to how they put it.

They didn't say warranted in this case.

They didn't say warranted in this incident.

They didn't say warranted in this supposed crime.

They said warranted in this situation.

Which if you are like me and you read between the lines, then exactly what I just gave you laid out for you using Becky Smith is exactly what they're saying.

If this situation would have been different and if the person that hit Kayleen Tucker would have been white, then the NAACP of Virginia would be backing up Kayleen Tucker right now and would be calling for the justice system to issue some type of a charge and I will stand on my grave with that.

I know that's exactly what happened.

I've seen.

I can't remember his name, but I've seen the guy over the NAACP in Virginia talk about it and how this shouldn't be and the family should drop it and the whole nine.

Very upsetting to me.

To Kayleen Tucker, I hope that you recover well.

I hope that you do know that there is some people that really do know the truth of what they're seeing, that everybody is not fooled.

And you do have a lot of people that is behind you and on your side when it comes to a Layla effort.

I hope that you decide to come to grips what you have done and tell the truth.

I don't think that the NAACP is going to win this one for you.

I do think that you will be found guilty and charged with a misdemeanor, even if it means you have to go to a court case to do so if you're not going to admit to the guilt yourself.

But no matter what angle you look at this from, from people that's done this before, that's ran relays, that's been on track, I'm not the only one.

I mean, there's professional track stars that saying, yeah, this was done intentionally.

Every news outlet that I've watched, somebody's independent, at least that can give their own opinion and said the same thing is done intentionally.

If you really watch this video, you will see also that it's done intentionally.

Now, I hope that Elena Tucker, I hope you do not get stripped of any scholarships in which you have.

It's most likely because this is what colleges do.

If you become some type of a troubled person, whether you're on their campus or not, they will usually just pull scholarships, especially if you're going on track and field now, because now people has to be able to trust the fact that they want you on their track and field team and that you won't do these kind of things that will get them disqualified.

So in that light, you may have kind of screwed yourself, but I hope that you do learn a lesson from this and is able to recover from this.

But we have to accept responsibility for the things in which we have done.

Ladson NAACP as an organization, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I think you guys know for a fact that this girl did do this.

I don't know why you're defending her to the hill that you are.

And now you're asking for charges to be removed.

But.

But you should understand that what I said is true.

That if this was Becky Smith and she, Becky happened to be white, you would be calling for some type of charge.

First of all, you as NAACP shouldn't be involved in this in any case because it's not a racial case, it's not an injustice case, it's not a civil rights case.

This is a criminal case.

Somebody maliciously, willfully and in broad daylight hit somebody else in the head twice at any fashion, in any outlet, any state, any event, no matter where you go, that's assault and battery.

It's a misdemeanor, in some cases a felony.

So I hope you have not disgraced the NAACP's name.

And black people that's behind this saying that this is exactly what should happen should be shaming themselves because we all know again, the outcome if the shoe was on the other foot.

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