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Feb. 9, 2025

The Assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

The podcast episode provides a compelling narrative surrounding the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., one of the most significant figures in American civil rights history. It opens with a powerful acknowledgment of individual worth and the distressing reality of suicide statistics, creating a somber atmosphere. The dialogue then transitions to an exploration of King's impactful presence and the events leading to his assassination on April 4, 1968. The host recounts King's journey to Memphis, where he stood in solidarity with sanitation workers, highlighting the socio-political climate of the era and the sacrifices made in the pursuit of justice.

A central theme of the episode revolves around King’s last speech, 'I've Been to the Mountaintop,' delivered on the eve of his assassination. The host reflects on the profound nature of this address, suggesting that King possessed an eerie awareness of his mortality, which imbued his words with a sense of urgency and prophetic insight. This analysis not only pays homage to King's legacy but also invites listeners to contemplate the implications of his message in today's context, particularly regarding the ongoing struggles for equality and justice.


The episode further investigates the aftermath of King’s assassination, particularly focusing on James Earl Ray's conviction. The host presents various conspiracy theories, questioning the official narrative and exploring the potential involvement of governmental forces in the assassination. This critical inquiry serves to engage listeners in a broader discussion about accountability, the intersections of race and power, and the lasting impact of King's work on contemporary movements for social justice. Through this thoughtful exploration, the episode challenges us to reflect on the significance of King's legacy and the continued fight for civil rights.

Takeaways:

  • The podcast highlights the importance of recognizing one's worth and the assurance that one is not alone in their struggles.
  • It underscores the staggering statistic that a life is lost to suicide every 40 seconds, urging listeners to take action in combatting this crisis.
  • Listeners are encouraged to participate actively in changing societal statistics surrounding mental health and suicide prevention efforts.
  • The episode delves into the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., emphasizing its historical significance and ongoing impact on civil rights movements.
  • The podcast discusses various conspiracy theories surrounding Dr. King's assassination, including government involvement and the role of James Earl Ray as a potential scapegoat.
  • It concludes with a call to unity and action, urging individuals to stand together against political oppression and to honor the legacy of Dr. King.

Chapters

00:00 - None

00:05 - Changing the Statistics on Suicide

03:12 - The Historical Context of Dr. King's Assassination

10:17 - Theories Surrounding Martin Luther King's Assassination

18:24 - The Impact of DEI on Employment and Society

25:12 - The Fight for Martin Luther King Jr.'s Memorial

33:13 - The 14th Amendment and Birthright Citizenship

41:21 - The Rise of Fascism: A Call to Unity

45:45 - The Political Landscape and Its Impact on Society

Transcript
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You are seen.


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You are worthy.


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You are not alone.


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The world loses one person to suicide every 40 seconds.


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Let's change the stats together.


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We can say not suicide.


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Not today.


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Welcome to True Crime Authors and Extraordinary People, the podcast where we bring two passions together.


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The show that gives new meaning to the old adage truth is stranger than fiction.


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And reminding you that there is an extraordinary person in all of us.


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Here is your host, David M.


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What's going on, everybody?


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Welcome to another episode of True Crime Authors and Extraordinary People.


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Of course, I'm your man, David M.


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If you guys haven't already, make sure you follow us on all of our social media.


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One link to a link tree will get you every place you need to go pertaining to the show.


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All right, as you heard coming in, if you are someone or you know someone who feel like you want to hurt yourself or someone else, please dial 988-it-S a suicide prevention hotline.


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They will get you the help that you need.


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You can reach them by call or by text.


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If no one else has told you this today, let me be the first to tell you.


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We do need you here.


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And.


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And there is nothing worth your life.


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All right, from the top, let me say Happy Black History Month.


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No matter what anybody's telling you, it is exactly Black History Month.


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Black history is a part of American history.


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Regardless of what some feels.


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The case I'm bringing you today, I bring with a heavy heart, especially dealing with what's going on in the world today.


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I will give you fair warning in case that this is a trigger warning for you or you just don't want to hear my opinion of it.


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But there is no way to do this case without talking about politics and what's going on in the world right now.


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Because what is happening in the White House greatly affects the man that we're going to talk about who gave his life to make sure people of color especially but all people escaped what we're dealing with at this moment.


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So towards the end of this, I will talk a little bit about politics, my thoughts, my opinions, and what I think that we need to do now to survive what we are dealing with at this moment.


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So that is your warning.


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If you don't like politics, if you don't want to hear my opinion, you just want to hear the case I'm going to do.


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You're free to tune off, but I feel like on my platform, especially being an African American creator, it is also my job to keep all people informed of what is happening and what I think will happen in the future.


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I am not a political channel, but I will be giving you a lot of political places that you can go if you do want to keep abreast of what's happening in the world.


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All right, so we are going to deal with a historical crime, and it deals with a remarkable individual.


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And it did shape not only our understanding of what civil rights was, but it shook the world as a whole.


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So today we are going to dive into one of the most significant assassinations in American history, and that is the murder of Dr.


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Martin Luther King, Jr.


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It was April 4, 1968.


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The civil rights movement was at its peak, and Dr.


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King had arrived in Memphis, Tennessee, in support of the striking sanitation workers.


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He was staying at the Lorraine Motel, a frequent lodging for black activists and leaders.


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But at 6:01pm everything changed.


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A single gunshot rang out, striking Dr.


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King on the balcony outside room 306.


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At 7:05pm he was pronounced dead at St.


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Joseph Hospital.


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His assassination shook the nation, triggering riots, mourning in a search for answers that still continues to this day.


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So you don't know anything about the 1968 Memphis sanitation workers strike.


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Dr.


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King went down there to give them some hope, to talk them through this, and to stand in solidarity.


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So that gave way to what we now know as the famous I've been to the mountaintop speech.


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Now, the I've been to the mountaintop speech was a speech that almost did not happen.


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Dr.


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King was sick that night.


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He was exhausted and he had a sore throat.


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A thunderstorm was coming in, and that was anticipated to hold down the turnout.


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So he decided to say, hey, Reverend Ralph Abernathy, my best friend and chief Lieutenant, won't you go out there and speak to the people instead?


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But when Reverend Abernathy went out and saw the crowd that I turned out to hear, Dr.


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King, they said they didn't care if a thunderstorm was coming.


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They didn't care what was happening.


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They knew Dr.


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King was in town and they wanted to hear him speak.


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Dr.


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Abernathy went back to him and said, look, bro, you need to come out here because this crowd came to see you.


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We don't want to disappoint them.


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They don't want to come here for me.


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They came to hear from you, Dr.


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Martin Luther King, Jr.


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So he convinced him to go out and give the I've been to the mountaintop speech, which he had gave in solidarity in the support of the striking sanitation workers.


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They say it's one of his shorter speeches.


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I've always referenced it as the I Believe Martin knew he was going to go speech because what he said at the end of that speech, I'll leave a link so you can see his whole speech.


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But I want to give you this, that last part of his speech of why many people believe that Martin Luther King knew that his days were not long upon this earth.


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He said, like anybody, I would like to live a long life.


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Longevity has its place, but I'm not concerned about that now.


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I just want to do God's will.


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And he's allowed me to go to the mountain and I've looked over and I've seen the promised land.


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I may not get there with you, but I want you to know tonight that we as a people will get to the promised land.


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And I'm so happy tonight.


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I'm not worried about anything.


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I'm not fearing any man.


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Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.


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That's why I believe, like many other people believe that Martin Luther King Jr.


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Knew that he didn't have long to live.


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But it was still almost a speech that was never given.


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Now the man that they did arrest and convicted him for Dr.


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King's murder was James Earl Ray.


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James O'Rey was a small time criminal with a history of robbery and prison escapes.


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And Ray became the prime suspect after his fingerprints were found on a Remington 3006 rifle which is abandoned near the crime scene.


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After an international manhunt, Ray was arrested at Heathrow Airport in London on June 8, 1968.


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Facing overwhelming evidence and fearing the death penalty, he pled guilty to avoid a trial.


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So he was sentenced to 99 years in prison.


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However, just days later, he recanted his confession, claiming he was set up.


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Now there are some theories and narratives about this, so I'll tell you what those are and then I'll kind of fill in some gaps and give you my $0.02 and opinions on that.


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Now, the doubts surrounding James Earl Ray's guilt have few conspiracy theories for decades.


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Let's explore a few.


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So the first one is the government's involvement.


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Many believe the US government played a role in King's assassination.


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The FBI under J.


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Edgar Hoover saw King as a threat, labeling him the most dangerous man in America.


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Declassified COINTELPRO documents reveal the FBI's effort to discredit and surveil King, including sending him a threatening letter urging him to commit suicide.


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In 1999, the King family filed a civil suit against Lloyd Jowers, a Memphis businessman who claimed he was involved in a conspiracy to kill King.


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The jury ruled in favor of the King family, concluding that government agencies were involved.


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However, the U.S.


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department of justice later dismissed these findings citing a lack of solid evidence.


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Now this is to that little bit we what J.


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Edgar Hoover actually said was that Dr.


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King was the most dangerous negro in America.


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Not dangerous man.


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He said he was the most dangerous negro in America.


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It is true.


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J.


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Edgar Hoover hated Martin Luther King Jr.


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Because of the work in which he was doing on behalf of civil rights.


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Even though Martin Luther King Jr.


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Fought for everyone.


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Yes, black people, pro black, top of the list.


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But a lot of the bills that he fought for, a lot of the civil rights whites have today came from the work that Martin Luther King Jr.


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Did.


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And black ancestors from long ago did this work.


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Yes, the cointelpro did show, right that yes, I mean they bugged his house, they was following him around.


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Trump right now just declassified the rest of that because he wants to discredit Dr.


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King.


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The little bitty things he wants to bring out.


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We already knew about Dr.


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King and that's been covered several times.


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But I don't know why the just probably cited there was lack of evidence because all of the intel was set up by the FBI.


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So it is true that it is very widely believed that J.


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Edgar Hoover has something to do with that.


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And I'll give you a little bit more on that at the end.


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The second theory is the patsy theory, which is some believe that Ray was merely a scapegoat manipulated by a mysterious figure named Raul.


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Ray himself maintained that he was drawn into a gun smuggle operation and unknowingly set up.


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There is little concrete evidence of Raul's existence, but Rey's sudden plea deal has fueled speculation that he was silenced.


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So Ray has always said that Raul exists.


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He was a gun smuggler and the next thing he knew he was being set up for a murder.


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Theory number three is the Mafia connection.


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Another theory suggests the Mafia orchestrated King's murder.


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King's increasing support for labor movements and his opposition in the Vietnam war allegedly put him in the crosshairs of powerful figures.


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Some believe the Mafia worked with the FBI and Memphis police to eliminate him.


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In my opinion, if the Mafia was involved, it was only at the behest of FBI.


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I don't think Dr.


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King was doing enough to have a Mafia want to come after him.


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If that was the case, Dr.


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King would have been done away with a long time before the time that he actually died.


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And if you know how the Mafia work, they work in the shadows.


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So somebody would have came up on him probably killed him.


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Boom, that's it.


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Next thing you know, Dr.


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King is just there.


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No orchestration, no setup, no nothing.


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The mob hits and run.


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So despite all of those theories, here is what we actually do know about Martin Luther King's murder.


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These are the indisputable facts that are.


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Remington 3006 rifle was found near the crime scene with Ray's fingerprints raised.


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Movements in and out of Memphis align with key moments in the assassination timeline.


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The king family has consistently believed in a broader conspiracy Rather than rey acting alone.


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The U.


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S.


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House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1979 found that there was likely a conspiracy but lacked definitive proof.


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Let's touch on that full for a few minutes.


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Just think about this with me.


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So James earl ray was directly across the street from the Lorraine motel and from the room that Dr.


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King occupied that day.


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Now, from all reports, it says that James array was about 207ft away across you, like I said, from Martin Luther king's balcony.


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Now, here is the part that looks real funny.


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James earl ray supposedly killed Martin Luther King Jr.


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But he only shot him once.


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Not twice, not three times.


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One time.


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One time from 207ft away.


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Now, you may say that's not impossible with the scope.


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From what I understand, what I've seen, James earl ray was not necessarily good with a gun.


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Even with a scope.


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You got to be somewhat good with the gun to hit somebody 207ft away.


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Now, if you look it up, they say that that's an easy shot for even an average marksman.


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But I'm not sure because that shot one time has been scrutinized for years.


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Now, the reason I say that this shot is not that easy is because if it was, then why wouldn't he have shot Dr.


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King directly in the head?


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And I don't know if this rifle had a scope on it.


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I don't think that it did.


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But if they're saying that this is a shot that an average marksman can make, why didn't he shoot him in the head?


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Because that would be the absolute kill shot at that point.


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Right.


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But Dr.


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King ended up being hit in the right cheek.


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It smashed his jaw.


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Then the bullet traveled down his spinal cord, and then it lost in his shoulder.


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So if you're that good of an artsman, I think you're gonna do the takeout shot.


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And then that would be it.


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Yes.


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My opinion on that.


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So what is being floated around is if you look at the Lorraine hotel, there is across the street from there.


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I think there was like some brush of some trees that they're saying that maybe somebody that couldn't be seen was hidden there.


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And then they actually did actually do the shooting and they framed James Earl Ray for it.


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All I know is, is he's passed away now.


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But before he died, the King family went to try to get him released from prison.


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They have stated on many different occasions that they don't believe that James already killed Dr.


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King at all and that he should be released.


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I am with them.


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I do not believe that Dr.


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King was killed by James or Ray.


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I believe James Earl Ray was indeed a patsy.


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I believe that he was set up by the federal government, being J.


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Edgar Hoover.


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Don't know if they had anything on him, being he did have a little bit of a crime background, but for whatever reason they picked this guy.


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Dirty work was done.


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He goes to jail to serve 99 years.


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If you just go and search up Martin Luther King Jr.


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Assassination, all of that stuff will come out.


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More time than I have today because it is long.


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If you're ever curious about J.


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Edgar Hoover and how he disliked Martin Luther King Jr.


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And how he said several times that Dr.


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King must go, I think maybe you can conclude some of this as well now with all that being said in the life of Dr.


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King.


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I believe that Dr.


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King is probably rolling his grave right now because of what is happening.


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I also believe that Lady Liberty is shaking her stone fist because of what Lady Liberty stands for.


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America is a land of immigrants.


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There is nobody on this land, nobody in America.


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That is what I would consider or you would consider to be purebred.


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There's not a purebred white person.


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If you do DNA, everybody's mixed with something.


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I know some white people that actually has 3, 4, 5, 6% black in them.


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Let's not forget back in slavery times, the white man raped African American women and kids was born.


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The part I'm going to touch on for you today, and this is what my heart is heavy, is the part that I think Dr.


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King would hone in on.


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And I'm going to try to make some sense out of this.


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And I'm trying to unify people at the same time.


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But we warned everybody about this mess that we are now in.


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The one thing to know about black people is we've been through this before.


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Well over 400 years now.


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We see things coming.


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We've tried to warn people of this is what's going to happen.


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But people said, oh, we couldn't vote for Kamala Harris because my eggs is Too high, gas is going to raise, and inflation is horrible.


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And, well, let's face this fact, people.


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And it's written, we had the best economy that we ever had.


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The economy is stronger than ever, has been up under Biden.


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Now Trump is admitting that he can't lower prices.


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How do you guys feel about that?


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But let's talk about dei, because here is the tactic in which he is using.


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If you make everything about the enemy and the enemy in his eyes, whether anybody agrees or not, I think that it's been proven that.


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I think from the executive orders that he's written, I think from some of the things that he said, I think from his proclamation he made about Black History Month, he is racist.


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And if you put everything on his enemy, which is black Americans, then you can get white people to believe that and to spin his narrative and to say everything is for them.


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So I'm gonna break down DEI for you guys, and then I'm gonna try to unify us, because now we're all in this mess.


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You know, we're getting people deported.


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I live in California.


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It's citrus season, if you guys didn't notice.


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You get avocados from us.


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No one's picking avocados.


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We have a whole bunch of wine vineyards.


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No one's picking grapes.


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I watch my news and I see all these grapes that's hanging, that's riding, because nobody's out there to pick them.


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Because the immigrants in which he sent back, who was minding their own business, who did nothing.


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Whether you want to have the argument that they're legal or illegal, these people pay more than, I think, what, a billion dollars in taxes a year.


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They paid a lot of money into Social Security that they're never going to be able to use, but they're paying that for the right to stay here in America.


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So what Trump basically did is he used di.


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He flipped it and he said, oh, DEI is reverse discrimination.


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DI was designed for the white man to be held down and for the black man to be held up.


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Let me read to you what diversity, equity and inclusion means.


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Then I'm going to give you some statistics behind it that will probably blow your mind.


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So diversity, equity, inclusion is.


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Organizational frameworks would seek to promote the fair treatment and full participation of all people, particularly groups who have historically been underrepresented or subject to discrimination on the basis of identity or disability.


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These three notions, diversity, equity, and inclusion, together represent three closely linked values which organizations seek to institutionalize through DEI frameworks.


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The concepts precede this terminology and other Variations sometimes include terms such as belonging, justice, accessibility.


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As such, frameworks such as inclusion and diversity, diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging, justice, equity, diversity and inclusion or diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility exists.


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Diversity refers to presence of variety within the organizational workforce, such as identity and identity politics.


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It includes gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, disability, age, culture, class, religion or opinion.


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Somebody tell me where that said black.


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Somebody tell me where that whole definition said.


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This is the better black people because of where I'm sitting, if it's the better black people.


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Now Trump's got y'all believing all the blacks get better jobs than whites.


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And with DEI practices, we got to kill those because the blacks is making out better than us.


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Where's my mansion?


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Where's my millions?


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The last time I looked in the bank account, I didn't have millions.


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So if DEI is benefiting me and I'm taking everything from the white person, then I should be rich right now.


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No, let me tell you what DEI controls.


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DEI controls exactly what it said.


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So if you are 60 years old and you are trying to go get a job, if you voted for Trump, you just voted your job out the window because DEI protected you because of agerism.


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So somebody couldn't look at you and say, sorry, ma'am, you 62 years old, you too old, you can't have this job.


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If you voted for Trump and you have a disability, whether you have no legs or one leg, no arms, you walk on a crutch, you had a stroke and now the right side of your body don't work, but you need a job, you just voted it out the window for yourself.


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Cuz DEI protected you as a disabled person to get that job.


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So if you go to Walmart, which I haven't been in a while because I've boycotted them due to their non DEI practices.


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If you go to Walmart, though, you sometimes you see a disabled young man or young woman or an older person that's sitting in the front that's supposed to be checking receipts.


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I've always disagreed because of the fact that I don't think somebody who has a disability or older should be in that position because of the harm they can get.


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But there's other positions that disabled and older people hold within Walmart, but now those people can be gone because since DEI is dead, it doesn't protect anybody anymore.


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What about sexual orientation?


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So if you are gay or transgendered, you just booted that out the window because now somebody can say, hey, we ain't hiring you because you are gay or transgender.


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What about culture Religion.


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All of that was under dei.


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Again, where does that say black?


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It was something that was put in for all, all people.


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Yes, it benefited black people because we were in that class that historically was discriminated against.


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But let me give you these statistics.


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According to the U.S.


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department of labor, who do you think the largest groups of people is who benefit from dei?


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Let me shock you.


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This is an order of importance, meaning who gets the most out of dei?


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And top of the list is white women and male CEOs.


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Number two, Latino and Hispanic Americans.


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Number three, Asian Americans.


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Number four, Native Americans.


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Number five, disabled Americans.


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Number six, veterans.


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Number seven, LGBTQ plus.


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And who's at number eight?


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The very last on the list, Black people.


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Just for everybody's knowledge, black people is only 4% of the DI picture.


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Now how that raps into Dr.


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King?


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Because we don't need DEI because we've done everything for ourselves.


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We've had to do everything for ourselves.


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Let me give you case in point and prove it using something that deals with Dr.


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King.


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I guess everybody just thinks that Dr.


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King Day and Dr.


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King's memorial was, I guess, given to us that there was no work that was done that Congress just said, hey, we gonna give Martin Luther King his day.


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It happened like that.


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First of all, black people fought for years to get Dr.


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King's birth date recognized and could give him a day on the calendar that was fitting for any other historical figure or, and, or a president.


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To Prove that point, Dr.


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Martin Luther King Jr.


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Would have been 96 years old if he would have lived this year.


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This past January, we just celebrated the 42nd Martin Luther King Day.


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So that tells you that.


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But when it came to his monument, you know that fabulous good looking monument that sits down from the Lincoln Memorial, there was a problem.


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When I say black people work for their own, here's what happened.


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The government didn't want to give no money.


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There to be negotiations.


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There was problems all over the place.


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So the monument was costing $120 million to build.


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Oh, but Congress and everybody came and said, oh, but wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.


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We'll help you out after you raise the first $100 million.


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You only got until 2003 to do that.


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The year that this took place was 1996.


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And it was the United States Congress who authorized the Secretary of Interior to permit the Alpha Phi Alpha to establish a memorial.


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But we had to get the first 100 million.


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Now there were some other companies that kind of helped out.


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So we give them their dude, General Motors, Tommy Hilfiger, the building and the Gates Foundation, Walt Disney company, NBA, NFL Players Association, national association, from Realtors George Lucas and Steven Spielberg and Aflac, they gave some money, but black people still had to raise the majority of that.


Speaker A

I believe I gave money to it because on every channel that black people own at that time, Bet and any place that let them run that ad, they were asking you if you could please donate money so that Dr.


Speaker A

King could have the memorial in which he deserved.


Speaker A

And I'll be dang if we didn't do it.


Speaker A

So Alpha Phi Alpha set out to raise this money, and they actually raised $112 million over six years.


Speaker A

They also led a public campaign to justify King's place on the Mall.


Speaker A

Listen to what it said.


Speaker A

Justify his place.


Speaker A

Out of all the stuff that Dr.


Speaker A

King did, out of all the civil rights that he fought, that he fought for all people.


Speaker A

Because just don't, don't.


Speaker A

Just don't think that the right for women to vote was just about black people that gave the right for women to vote, no matter what color you are.


Speaker A

Out of all of the good things that Martin Luther King Jr.


Speaker A

Did, it still had to be justified.


Speaker A

While this black man had to have or could have a spot on the wall, they also battled the government and the commissioners over the memorial's location and the design of it.


Speaker A

And to make all this happen, the Alpha Alpha fraternity put aside rivalries with other black fraternities and sororities.


Speaker A

Now, I'm hoping that these are friendly, but, you know, other black sororities, you know, and fraternities, they compete against each other and their rivals and all that stuff, you know, mascots get stolen, all that kind of stuff.


Speaker A

They said, this thing is bigger than any rival we have.


Speaker A

We're going to set this all aside.


Speaker A

We going to come together as one, and we going to raise this money.


Speaker A

After the money was raised, the memorial was officially open to the public in August of 2011.


Speaker A

They started this in 1996.


Speaker A

Took six years to raise $112 million before Congress even moved to put the rest of the money with it.


Speaker A

Now let's see how that compares.


Speaker A

In contrast, since you all can say, well, you just born this up, let's see how that compares.


Speaker A

In contrast to the man whose memorial sits on top of a Martin Luther King.


Speaker A

Is that.


Speaker A

Is the Lincoln Memorial?


Speaker A

Do you think Lincoln had that.


Speaker A

That much of a problem?


Speaker A

No, because the Lincoln Memorial was funded by Congress and private donations.


Speaker A

In 1911, President William Howard Taft signed a bill that created the Lincoln Memorial commission and allotted $2 million of the project.


Speaker A

Let me repeat that.


Speaker A

President William Howard Taft signed a bill.


Speaker A

They created a whole bill to give Lincoln his own memorial.


Speaker A

And in that bill, he allocated $2 million for the project.


Speaker A

The final cost for the memorial was 3 million, but they gave them 2 million of it, and the rest came from private donations.


Speaker A

Now, did you hear me say white people or people any color had to go out and do campaigns?


Speaker A

No.


Speaker A

Did you hear me say that they was met with challenges?


Speaker A

Nope, there was none.


Speaker A

That's your difference between those two monuments.


Speaker A

Everything that black people have, we built for ourselves.


Speaker A

We don't need dei.


Speaker A

I bust my butt for my job.


Speaker A

I had to go through several interviews to get the job that I have.


Speaker A

And the company which I work for feels like that they only hire the best of the best.


Speaker A

So there was no color, there was no dei, There was no pat on the back.


Speaker A

But I just told you what DEI covered.


Speaker A

I just told you who benefits the most from DEI.


Speaker A

And it definitely ain't usually is white people.


Speaker A

White CEOs, you know, the Mark Zuckerbergs of the world, the Elon Musk of the world.


Speaker A

It's even come out that J.D.


Speaker A

vance even took part of DEI himself, who's trying to fight it now because he has a dude on YouTube telling you the whole story that him and JD Vance both went to school together, law school that is off of the GI Bill.


Speaker A

And that many of the practices he wants to sit down, he took advantage of.


Speaker A

I gave you a whole breakdown of who is included in that.


Speaker A

And you didn't hear black people anywhere.


Speaker A

Now, the other thing in which he's trying to do before we close out is now he's trying to weaponize the 14amendment.


Speaker A

He's trying to say that the 14th amendment was only created for black children.


Speaker A

Now, I don't mean to offend anybody, but this is why we're in the mess that we're in, because people that call themselves MAGA Republicans don't read Trump banks on that.


Speaker A

They he wants you to be dumb because half of the people I talked to, the voter for Trump, don't even know what a tariff is.


Speaker A

They've argued me down that I'm wrong on how a tariff works, and I'm exactly right.


Speaker A

You would have felt that when it came to Canada if he wouldn't have backed down.


Speaker A

Believe me, what you read on the news is fake.


Speaker A

He backed down from Mexico and Canada.


Speaker A

Canada, Mexico went back and down from Trump.


Speaker A

They said, we'll just go full board this however you want to do it.


Speaker A

But they was going to attack the red states first.


Speaker A

See, nobody ever cares about anything until it directly affects them.


Speaker A

But then he turned around and said, oh, but the 14th Amendment was only made for black children.


Speaker A

Let me give you just an extra what the 14th amendment is.


Speaker A

14th amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees citizenship, equal protection and due process to all people born or naturalized in the United States.


Speaker A

It was ratified in 1868.


Speaker A

Tell me, what did I say?


Speaker A

Black people.


Speaker A

What did I say?


Speaker A

Black children.


Speaker A

Let me tell you what the 14th Amendment actually does do to Trump, though.


Speaker A

See, this is why he wants to get rid of the Constitution.


Speaker A

Because what he's trying to do with birthright citizenship, if you read into the 14th amendment, the 14th amendment protects that, so he cannot send anybody back.


Speaker A

That's an anchor baby up under the birthright protections.


Speaker A

That's in the 14th Amendment.


Speaker A

So if you go a little bit deeper into that, here's what protects birthright.


Speaker A

All people born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States.


Speaker A

This includes formerly enslaved people.


Speaker A

See, the reason the 14th Amendment had to be written was, I think it was the 13th amendment did not tell you exactly what I guess a free person was.


Speaker A

The slaves was free, but they didn't know how to handle that.


Speaker A

You know, because remember, black people was not looked at as a human.


Speaker A

We was looked at as like a percentage of a human, like half a human.


Speaker A

We weren't human according to the racist white people that enslaved us.


Speaker A

So when Lincoln freed the slaves, which is a whole nother thing, because everybody, if you just think Lincoln freed the slaves to be freeing them and he was happy and he would be an abolitionist, that is not the truth, but that's another time.


Speaker A

But when Lincoln freed the slaves, they didn't know what a free person was.


Speaker A

So the 14th amendment had to be written that instructed exactly what that meant.


Speaker A

So when they mean the term all people born and naturalized United States are citizens of the United States, this includes formerly enslaved people is because back then all people meant white people before the 14th Constitution was made.


Speaker A

So they had to put in the safe.


Speaker A

Includes formerly enslaved people.


Speaker A

So that means if you're born here according to the 14th amendment and you're or you're naturalized here.


Speaker A

So if your parents is born in Guam and you here on this soil and your parents gave birth to you, According to the 14th amendment, you are an American citizen by birth right.


Speaker A

It also says no state can deny equal protection of the laws to anyone within its jurisdiction.


Speaker A

All people.


Speaker A

So he wants you to believe that the 14th Amendment is only given to black children because then you, his MAGA crowd, or whoever voted for him, or Republican, whatever you are, will say, hey, that's not fair.


Speaker A

That's about as bad as dei.


Speaker A

Let's see.


Speaker A

We can help Donald Trump get rid of the Constitution.


Speaker A

So if you feel that is lopsided and that it only pertains to one group of people, you're more likely to get rid of it.


Speaker A

That's what he wants because that will kill my rights as an African American.


Speaker A

He would feel like he can enslave us again because it would kill that citizenship.


Speaker A

Even though I'm born here, 100%, never been to Africa, my ancestors did.


Speaker A

But it gets rid of that.


Speaker A

It gets rid of anchor babies.


Speaker A

I'll tell you one celebrity that he would have to send back, and this will let.


Speaker A

This celebrity is beloved.


Speaker A

He's no longer with us, but he's beloved.


Speaker A

If he had his way and Bruce Lee was still alive and he wanted to send people back, then he would have to send Bruce Lee back to Hong Kong.


Speaker A

See, Bruce Lee was born Lee Jun Fawn.


Speaker A

His name translates into I will return, which means his dad always had a vision that Bruce Lee would return to America someday.


Speaker A

His dad was a famous traveling opera singer, I believe it was, and he was in San Francisco with his wife at the time that Bruce Lee had to be born.


Speaker A

So when Bruce Lee was born, he was born in San Francisco.


Speaker A

He has an American birth certificate, but he was raised in Hong Kong.


Speaker A

How did he get back here?


Speaker A

Well, in his youth, Bruce got into some problems, had to come out of there.


Speaker A

And his dad says, take this and this money and go to America.


Speaker A

And he's like, I can't go to America.


Speaker A

I'm not a citizen.


Speaker A

He says, they will accept you because you are one of them.


Speaker A

So if Trump had his way and Bruce Lee was living, that means he would be declaring that Bruce Lee is not a citizen, because his mom and his dad was from Hong Kong in China and was not born here.


Speaker A

That's what all that means.


Speaker A

People, I'm trying to let you guys know what you're running into.


Speaker A

Look at all the bills that's been written now.


Speaker A

So you tell me one policy that he's written right now about food, one policy that he's written about lowering gas prices, one policy that he's written about inflation.


Speaker A

From what I'm seeing, he's been spending his time writing all of these bills on deportation, trying to strip every one of their civil rights, trying to get rid of the LGBTQ in prisons and in schools, trying to kill anything that is black at this point.


Speaker A

Now, what I meant about.


Speaker A

And then I'll be getting out of here.


Speaker A

What I meant about when I said the proclamation in which he made.


Speaker A

If you don't know kkk, written, written rhetoric, I'm gonna give you some.


Speaker A

So he made this big proclamation that February 2025 would be known as Black History Month, blah, blah, blah, blah.


Speaker A

But what you're reading is how he wrote it so many times.


Speaker A

He capitalized Black History Month, but when he talked about black people, he did not capitalize on the B, which should be.


Speaker A

He lowercase that.


Speaker A

Now, I don't know.


Speaker A

I haven't seen this.


Speaker A

He's written so many of them.


Speaker A

But somebody said he actually wrote an order that says that every script and textbook and all that will now lowercase the letter B in black and will uppercase the letter W in white.


Speaker A

That was her.


Speaker A

That was KKK stuff.


Speaker A

Because the uppercase W and white meant that they were superior to black people.


Speaker A

Everybody caught that.


Speaker A

Now, if you really want to look at it, his whole cabinet is dei.


Speaker A

If you're going to deport somebody, you should be deporting his wife at least, what, two of his kids?


Speaker A

Three of his kids are anchor babies.


Speaker A

So why is the rule good for some but not for all?


Speaker A

You put a felon in office over 34 different felony counts.


Speaker A

You put a white supremacist in office, and now all of the people, the Latinos for Trump, is crying to black people to help them.


Speaker A

They changed their tune.


Speaker A

Well, we ain't voting for Kamala.


Speaker A

Do everything you can not to vote for her.


Speaker A

She's bad.


Speaker A

Now they're saying stuff like, can you help us?


Speaker A

We need to unify all together.


Speaker A

We tried to tell you we are the most hated race yet.


Speaker A

We are the one race that get everything done.


Speaker A

We're the ones that's out there marching.


Speaker A

We're the ones that started some of these protests that's happening right now.


Speaker A

There's protests all over the Capitol.


Speaker A

There's a protest against Target in Minnesota.


Speaker A

It was started by a black group.


Speaker A

We're the group that gets stuff done.


Speaker A

But now what we need to do is we need to all unify.


Speaker A

Because if we don't unify, that's what Trump wants.


Speaker A

If we don't fight the fascism that's going on, this is basically Hitler's playbook.


Speaker A

And everybody laughed, including the people that we know that voted for Trump.


Speaker A

Oh, you guys will say that.


Speaker A

It ain't Healer.


Speaker A

This is exactly Hitler Go read Mein Kampf.


Speaker A

Go read any of Hitler's policies.


Speaker A

The only difference between Hitler and Trump is that Hitler had no kind of breaks.


Speaker A

There was no constitution for him.


Speaker A

He just took over and did what he wanted to do.


Speaker A

Here we still have the federal courts, we still have the Democrats in office, which needs to grow a big old spine and jump up and say, forget all this.


Speaker A

Nice.


Speaker A

This takes the gloves off.


Speaker A

And.


Speaker A

And yes, before anybody says, we know Republicans has the majority, but they are the majority by one seat.


Speaker A

That ain't a big majority.


Speaker A

So I think we need to do.


Speaker A

We need to band together, no matter what color, what race, what creed you are.


Speaker A

I wanted to give you this because it went along with Dr.


Speaker A

Martin Luther King Jr.


Speaker A

We don't.


Speaker A

We're not DEI.


Speaker A

I want to tell you what DEI means.


Speaker A

That means all of us at some point in time is dei.


Speaker A

All of us are going to get old.


Speaker A

Some of us is going to have disabilities.


Speaker A

Maybe we're going to have something mental happen to us.


Speaker A

You want those DEI policies in place?


Speaker A

Because that's what's going to give you a job at 62.


Speaker A

That's what's going to give you a job when you only have one arm.


Speaker A

That's what's going to give you a job if you're a bbw, because they can look at you and say, up.


Speaker A

Don't want you too fat.


Speaker A

Goodbye.


Speaker A

And abundantly, these new rules.


Speaker A

You have no course to sue.


Speaker A

Why?


Speaker A

Because that would go onto your civil rights, which, by the way, Trump got rid of civil rights.


Speaker A

Scrubbed it from the White House website.


Speaker A

Said it was done.


Speaker A

All of this is an attempt to make the world white again, to send it back where it was in the 40s and the 50s, to make black people lower than them, to make Asian people, Hispanic people lower than them, to try to get rid of who he can.


Speaker A

He can't get rid of us, though.


Speaker A

There's 40 million of us black people here in this U.


Speaker A

S.


Speaker A

He can't get rid of us because we're all American citizens.


Speaker A

But he can do things to try to make our life a living hell.


Speaker A

So I say this to you.


Speaker A

You may be scared.


Speaker A

I'm not scared.


Speaker A

I give everything to God.


Speaker A

And speaking of that, what you see from them, that's not Christianity.


Speaker A

That is white, Christian nationalist and people should be happy.


Speaker A

I'm not God because I would already instruct people down all that stuff they're preaching.


Speaker A

That is not what God believes.


Speaker A

God is a God of peace, not war.


Speaker A

God is a God for everyone.


Speaker A

God is a God that wants to bring good, not destruction.


Speaker A

God will never take away your civil rights.


Speaker A

This is why people have such a problem with Christianity.


Speaker A

Because what you see on that stage and what you see somebody else portray may not be exactly what God is.


Speaker A

I don't have one picture of Jesus in my house.


Speaker A

You know why?


Speaker A

Because he's not the brown hair, blue eyed dude that you keep seeing.


Speaker A

By the way, how can you draw a picture of someone you've never seen?


Speaker A

Now if you go and read Revelation, they kind of give you kind of an outline of what Christ looks like.


Speaker A

It didn't say blonde hair or blue eyed.


Speaker A

It said that he had hair like wool and eyes like fire.


Speaker A

If you look at the place where Jesus was born, you have more brown skinned people there.


Speaker A

But we don't know, we've never seen him.


Speaker A

But I guarantee you he ain't blonde hair, blue eye.


Speaker A

So if you're buying into the rhetoric that that's what Christianity is, that is not the God that I serve, that is not Christianity.


Speaker A

Yeah, I'm all for putting the Ten Commandments back in school, but if you're going to do that, do that from somebody that's really following the Lord.


Speaker A

Donald Trump ain't.


Speaker A

And before you say I'm not, I'm not supposed to judge.


Speaker A

I ain't judging them.


Speaker A

I'm telling you by what his own actions are.


Speaker A

He did not put his hand on the Bible when he got sworn in.


Speaker A

He was asked point blank, have he ever asked for forgiveness?


Speaker A

And he says no, he's never asked God for forgiveness.


Speaker A

Now how do you know God never asked him for forgiveness?


Speaker A

So let's band together, people.


Speaker A

We have a long four years or at least a long year and a half.


Speaker A

The primaries is coming.


Speaker A

The smartest thing that anybody can do in the primary is flip the House and the Senate and Congress.


Speaker A

You need to give it all back to the Democrats, put them in majority control.


Speaker A

They can put the rest of the brakes on Donald Trump at that point because everything that he needs to do except for these executive orders, they have to go through them.


Speaker A

Do you know that the budget runs out for America in March?


Speaker A

So they got to go through the Democrats in order to get a budget plan.


Speaker A

They don't have enough majority.


Speaker A

So I was going, that Constitution piece is this.


Speaker A

And this is why I felt that we're in no danger of him ratifying it.


Speaker A

So let me give you this and then we're done.


Speaker A

The amendment process is very difficult and time consuming.


Speaker A

A proposed amendment must be passed by 2/3 of both houses of Congress then ratified by the legislatures of 3/4 of the states.


Speaker A

He don't have that.


Speaker A

Even if every Republican, every maga, and him having the House and the Senate, Donald Trump still does not have 2/3 of both houses.


Speaker A

Now, let's say that he does.


Speaker A

He definitely don't have three fourths of all states because the blue states is going to oppose that.


Speaker A

So therefore he cannot change the Constitution.


Speaker A

He cannot change the 14th Amendment.


Speaker A

And it's not about black children.


Speaker A

I read you exactly what it is.


Speaker A

It guarantees citizenship and equal protection in due process to all people born or naturalized in the United States.


Speaker A

All right, guys, thank you for tuning in with me.


Speaker A

I hope what I've said to you guys has resonated.


Speaker A

We need to stand together, need to band together to fight the evilness that's coming out of the White House right now.


Speaker A

If Dr.


Speaker A

Martin Luther King was here, even at 96 years old, I bet money that he would still be finding a way to give these speeches and to try to tear down what is happening right now.


Speaker A

So let's honor Dr.


Speaker A

King.


Speaker A

Let us fight.


Speaker A

Let us do what is right.


Speaker A

Let us make a America, the America that we want to be again.


Speaker A

Let us not have to be embarrassed to be from America because people's booing us no matter where we go.


Speaker A

We can do it if we all stick together.


Speaker A

All right, guys, once again, thank you for tuning in.


Speaker A

I just gave you my little spill on the politics, my political channel.


Speaker A

I'm gonna give you some people to go listen to.


Speaker A

Reese Waters tabular speech.


Speaker A

Roland Martin, Martin, the Midas Network.


Speaker A

I mean, I got a whole bunch of them I'll leave down here for you if you want to go check them out.


Speaker A

They do a far better job than I do and they're always on it every day.


Speaker A

You cannot listen to legacy media.


Speaker A

You need to listen to the independence because they're going to be the ones who are going to tell you the truth.


Speaker A

So thank you for joining me today.


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